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schengen visa refused from pakistan HELP!

edited March 7 in - France
my relative and I, both currently unemployed but starting school/careers soon, had decided to make a short term trip to Europe before we get on to our lives.

I previously have one visa refusal and one removal order from canada. Basically I was in canada, working, when my then visa got refused and by law I had 90 days to restore my status. I stupidly applied for incorrect visa, which I found about much later on ( probably should have consulted with some lawyer first ) so when the restore application got refused, that automatically meant i have to leave the country so that counted as ' removal '. During this time I obeyed all laws and regulations and conditions of my stay and did not do anything illegal. anyways i left the country within 30 days. I show all of this in my application in form of explanation letter. I have applied for PR for canada as well, however since at the time of my schengen visa i had not officially submitted all documents, i couldnt show them any prove of that so i left that as i did not have any acknowledgement letter of that.

My relative also has one visa refusal from canada. he once applied for study permit and even got call for medical. due to family emergency, he decided not to continue the application. unknowingly to him, if u dont respond to request for medical, couple of weeks later that automatically counts as refusal.

I am in between jobs so I put occupation as unemployed/travelling.
My relative is joining university in canada in May for which he has applied for visa. He is just waiting for his visa for that so he put occupation student.

Anyway we submitted our application with A to Z all documents at french embassy in pakistan. We indicate our refusals, submit refusal letters, explaantion letters, my brother shows his canadian university offer letter that he plans to leave schengen visa because he has to go to university, all that stuff.

today we got sad news that our visas have been refused for the following reason:

Your intention to leave the territory of the Member States before the expiry of the visa applied for could not be ascertained.

Is our current situation most likely reasons for visa refusal that we had past visa refusals from canada? was it a mistake to be truthful about that in our applciations?
Is there a way we can ask them to give us specific reasons as to why our visa got refused?

We just wanted to enjoy have a good summer time in europe.


we just want to know what exactly prompted them to refuse our visas.

Comments

  • @jologo

    "we just want to know what exactly prompted them to refuse our visas."

    Neither of you are employed and both of you have appalling immigration history i.e. removal orders from Canada, yours is classified as an actual removal and you have been refused another visa before this application.
    Do you think that the Schengen immigratiion officers have no access to immigration information from other countries ? Why do you think biometric information is taken?
    If you had not revealed your removal from Canada you stood to be banned from the Schengen zone on the basis of a fraudulent application.

    Your intention to leave the territory of the Member States before the expiry of the visa applied for could not be ascertained.

    It is a no brainer as to why you were refused, its because they dont believe you will leave
    the Schengen zone. You come from a poor country, no job, no income, no strong ties to your country and an appalling immigration history.

    I think I have answered your question quite clearly.











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