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Roadtrip: Crossing borders documentation needed from geneve to Genoa to Nice?

edited June 2010 in - General Europe
Hi there, I am from Singapore. Will be travelling on a roadtrip from the start point geneve tomorrow towards Valais then into Genoa Italy and to the coast of Nice, France. Do I need to have any cross borders documentation into Italy and France? Can I just pack my light cloths hoping the weather will be warm?


  • edited February 2015
    I'm well late for your trip but... maybe someone else is looking for the same information.
    Any non-European citizen travelling between European countries must always be prepared to show their passport when crossing borders. Citizens from some countries need a valid tourist visa in Europe, so it's always best to check before leaving home exactly what rules apply in each individual case as generalising is difficult.
    Susann has lived in Genoa since 2010
  • Susann you have dug up a very old post and your comment is also way out of date. Between the Schengen countries in Europe there are no borders to cross, either by road sea or air.
  • Alethia is right that the Schengen Area covers most of Europe. (Twenty-two of the twenty-eight European Union (EU) member states participate in the Schengen Area. Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus and Romania will join soon, while the other two – Ireland and the United Kingdom – maintain opt-outs. The EFTA member states – Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway, and Switzerland – have signed the Schengen Agreement, even though they are outside the EU.

    But, and I stand to be corrected, if you don't have your passport you must carry your national ID card. For British citizens, where there is no ID card, this probably means taking your passport along to be safe.
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  • Europeans are expected to carry their ID cards but there no border posts between countries to show these documents, thats the point
  • The question is from a non-European and not all European countries have the same rules regarding visas. For example, as Mathieu pointed out, the UK is not part of the Schengen area.
    Susann has lived in Genoa since 2010
  • edited February 2015
    Susann the whole idea of the Schengen Treaty signed in 1985 was that all member states have the same visa which enables non Europeans to apply for one visa that allows them to travel freely with out border controls throughout the Schengen zone. This also applies to non Europeans who have residence permits, they can also travel freely between member states,
    European countries make individual immigration decisions on other non Schengen matters under their own domestic laws.
    The UK, Cyprus and Ireland are not members of the Schengen zone. I am a British lawyer who specialises in immigration, EU treaty rights anf human rights, so I am very sure of what I say.
  • I don't think there's any big disagreement here, but I will say that as a non-European travelling with a Schengen visa I have been asked to present my passport several times at airports in Europe. Travelling between the Netherlands and Italy for instance. It is true that apart from at airports travellers aren't likely to need to produce evidence of their visas, but I don't think advising people to carry passports while travelling between countries is bad advice.
  • The original post which was from 2010 was regarding a road trip, not airports. Having driven around Europe from my own experience there are no land border posts, where you are stopped and asked for your passport apart from Romania and Bulgaria who are not yet full Schengen members. Your passport should be carried at all times when you are travelling in any country not just the EU its commonsense.
  • ID checks don't just happen at check points, police ad other authorities can do them anywhere, at any time. For example, on trains crossing the border between Switzerland and Italy everyone is controlled at the border (or they say everyone should be, but I can't say if they actually manage to check every single passenger all the time. I've had to show my passport every time though and I am an EU citizen).
    The other day there were police officers at my local train station (which is not near any border, but then again I do live in a town with a big international port...) checking passengers' IDs. I also heard they asked to see visa.
    Well, how about putting an end to this conversation as it doesn't seem to lead to anything constructive?
    Have a nice day!
    Susann has lived in Genoa since 2010
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